@thegirlnamedblake - Mask Mandates & 30 Minute Poops w/ Blake Guichet

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This episode features Blake Guichet, aka @thegirlnamedblake

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Welcome back to young married Christian,we are on a mission to see a Gospel centered home made available for everysingle child in the foster care system. In this episode, Debo talks to a girlnamed Blake apologies up front. It finally happened. We knew it wasinevitable. It was. It was going to happen one of these days and,unfortunately episode even it did happen. We had a major audio Snafu forwhatever reason the recorder that we were using didn't start a new track,while we were taking breaks during the episode and it recorded over so thesecond hour recorded over the first hour, the third hour recorded over thesecond hour. So super sorry. Obviously we you know hope that this neverhappens again but wanted to give you a head up before we dive into it. Now.Debo can tell you a little bit about what the conversation was about yeah,even though the audio is crap. The content is still amazing, as always,I'm wearing the mask on my face right now in honor of Blake and how heatedand how opinionated she was on mask mandates and vaccination mandates. Itgot spicy did get peso. They also talked about the INARA, which Ipersonally am pretty passionate about. The iniaan come to find out, so isBlake and she had a lot of what I thought were really incredible thingsto say about him. I definitely had some good takeaways from the Ingram formyself an Ashley even and then we got into the mystery of why some men takethirty minute poops, including myself. I never thought we would be hosting aninterview about poops but sure enough that he a it like five or seven minutestalking about it, and I was just over there in the studio thinking all right.This is happening. We're talking about poops. It was the craft all right regardless. We hope you lovethis episode, sorry again for the Audio and hold on to your prayer, beadsGlenda, because we are young, married Coracian, O, don't walk on just like right down the streetand I, like literally there's a a I- throw something and hit a walk onanywhere lisias Les. It kind of is good, O unlying to cheile that you have rightnow. It Ain't pretty blessed. No, it's not a large drinking, but it was stillreally good yeah, which makes me wonder like in Louisiana when you get out ofchurch on a Sunday, if you're going to like your favorite drive through, whereare you going or not because chips close? If you had to choose any anydrive or he you can't even choose one? No do you got T do fast food now justin play. I L, no glut. I feel so bad for offering you so much polluting theother night. I'm maybe the crack AK had a little bit of blue ahave like o bid it. Nothing else. Did Okay Yeah! I just feintise on believepeople. Think French fish are good there, not a a you. Don't have to callme out for not understanding. We and you did not a time. I'm glunimiesand I refuse to be like a like that noxious glue every person. That's like a either like it's the worst. So do you do allof your cooking at home then? Or do you just go out to like sit downrestaurants when you're going out like to be mostly eat at home? My parentslive like ten minutes from us in where I live so like when somethinwe go over there, an o lunch. We don't we really. We have time okayin about it. If you do it usually like I sit downplace for you plan okay, but you also, if you're not goingto include like I don't eat it because, like a man, guting like it like wrecksmy stomach, like, I don't think he's seliction do I and so yeah, so s to be kind of yeah. I'mlearning that I think I've lacked to us some time me yeah and it's like it'ssad o. take me thirty, one years to realize the too and just talking littleman a year ago, okay wow! So I are not at you're not far behind and like, eventhough I realize it. I have a massive addiction to ranch, you know being fromthe Midwest and be inch dairy I to dress in, I would think, is branch, dairy yeah. It's O that I mean the bottle forHidden Valley. Ranch makes it look very dairy. We is going on in its theorybecause it e bottle looks like it's vary. I mean the dire minstersandunfortunately, yes, okay. What is...

...that Dresser's? Not of your way to makemake dairy free ranch ranch, because you can file therich packets right an I a day free, then that would be the ranch that Ipray want to be searching true, but that's the thing about finding up youhaving times of learning to like be okay with, like substitutes like, Iknow how to make a really good gloting free, like Simon Coffee Cake, and it'slike my favorite if you live, learn how to live, make things with all apart,like I can make remember about the wear, the restaurants that I will have for Igreat tomatoes yeah I had the I can make like all mood flour fry ran was that sounds very healthy, but itdoesn't really taste that healthy. So it's like the good taste that, withlike other Houstin t e everybody's, like Oh you're good, for you must be sohealthy. Tell that to the twelve in Forio I had last night like it's, notokay, chocolate, oriens Elik, so it's not always I'm not like, and I don't eat a ton of dairy. Soyesterday having butter beer and ice cream was like to your job, a Ritiro coaster, a rodcase yeah. We did servite castle right after we had Otterbein, Oh yeah, I butkind of I like. Maybe you should take your bread for asecond yeah o the forbid turning inside hot was we did that a green got twice.Those were good. He were really good. I think, or gods was my favorite. I don't think there's anything wedidn't ride, though in Sedora, but that's next time. It makes me kind ofsad that you don't eat any fast food at all, because I feel, like I love fast food. So much. I know it'slike my unhealthy addiction and I'm like curving them, I'm trying to likeslow down that. I literally at one point like this is maybe like a fewmonths ago. I have the idea of doing a social media platform called Hill BillyDilly, where I just reviewed. Like fast food items, wait: okay, as I don't eat,as I does be, love fast, food, okay, okay, like Oh, we got a love talk about.Okay, have you seen the new Taco bells at the building? Oh the two story, TacoBells O, where Louisiana so maybe like a like Jatinska. So no I they look.Amazingly. These are like the jetsons Coco help. Where you pull up. I guess the feature is now you knoweverything's already like on the mobile you've already ordered it. You'vealready paid for it, and you pulled up like an M, and you know like that. TheBat where it like drops your money through like a tube, your food. Itcomes down an elevator and like and n you just get your food and you driveaway Taco Bell. We better enjoy those forlike the six months. We have to learn the hunger games and they take all thatstuff on us. I mean I just watched the first episode.We just started hand mill, hand, mails detail without last time, O a e O. Iwas like just have a Igarashi, these dis, Topi and shows and how it's likeit's not funk any more, because they're too real yeah yeah, I mean I feel like like, even even with like the fast foodrestaurants and near bias or like Dunky donuts right down the street. It'swhere actually always like get your coffee. It is now like closed themajority of dates and I'm like okay, what's happening, we get to evenrestaurants like walk, walk off, Ran Hans and fifteen and fifty shot Ye. Youere walk on, like all those restaurants like they can't get anyone to work. AI's like we're coming in or come in, like the after the aftermath of Covinis that legit, and I mean I don't sport that this is lit the free, I thinkabout places like Michigan that are still or freaking New York,Yeah O. I just hope that you get to fly home to a Tis like I know I hadn'tthought things are happening fast very quickly, just so like the two hundreddollars for Delta employees. What's on we talk about like the in, if you're anunvaccinated Delton, we, you have to pay two hundred dollars a month whenyou have to pay a Delta, if you're an employee, if you're UN actinae, ifyou're on the vaccine, so you're not paying you're just getting docked. No,they said like her to pay a two hundred...

...dollar surcharge is what blood likeheadlines Say so now, employees that aren'tvaccinated are getting paid, less are like they're, they're getting penalized. Doesn't matter of time. I don't knowwhat I don't know like: What's funeris trouble as like health and France s orsomething, but I literally Gestae what I was inthe park. My trainer texted me- and I told her like months ago when Iwork out with- and this is like, like thirty percentage O, I imagine trainingfor the Hunger Games, because I love those movies. I lovethose books, and so she takes me as her and she's like you know how you alwayssay that you're training for the names when we work out as a can she like, butit's not fucking anymore. I E like a joke. Just became no fun, did you justlike in the middle of universal studios like pull up one of these? When I seepeople without masks on like in POPLA places a you're supposed to or ask Iwant to like hunger games with them it like. I know most people wouldn't getit, but I want to Ertayne that I play with the parks islooking at the people not wearing mask and and choosing who, I think, evenhave the vaccine, because it's supposed to be like, if you do or norhone nowit's a cave, Ertsmans is a matter if you're vaccinated or not can yeah. I goby universals rules here. Okay, now I think you even in versal they likerecommend that everybody were in the indoors yeah recommend, which Iappreciated. I was I thank you for letting me be find decisions, but, likesome places like in Louisiana, there was a there's a very brief period oftime. Where it was I your vaccinated. I don't do where I ask so obviouslyeverybody sat wearing a mask, but it was a fun game like are you a rebel oryou Vaccai? Are you revolt yeah, we're like the number really thethird least vaccinated state in the country? What's number one number, twoD: Mississippi Alabama: it's like all Massy side again, I know right the SEC footballconference. The Sea gonna be interesting now, but you know what lsyou just put out the happy vaccine because of the Games. I hope they gounder I'd hold by a long life on finding I'm not sending them any money.I heard NFL players now wearing dance, so if their vaccinate saints arerequiring the vaccine too, and they just had to put tickets on so for adollar a dollar, but all the people online are like givethe vaccine. So why is it not selling out? Because it's not the majority,it's just the majority of the noise they're just loud on our line, Ye.There's that mean that's like waiting till the people just want to be leftalone get involved. I think that's accurate. So I know youdon't really have much of an opinion on the mandate with the Massinsham aboutmost everything. But if I was to give you a soap box and just like tellpeople are just like explain to me kind of like your thoughts on you know, maybe you're against thevaccine, maybe you're against the mandate, maybe you're against both like.Why is that such a because I know that you have a huge minion, not it in. Whyare you so black and white about it and making sure that you tell yourfollowers and everyone on instagram that that they also need to like beable to make that decision? Like there's, no great area here now, I knowyou're not like hey guys. It's a is so er for anybody about the mandate right,I'm you can be proactive. An antimalarial are full of people whohave gotten the vaccine. Also o just talk about for a second that I'm soused to censoring myself online that I'm like. I want to call it like theJAB, because you don't say vaccine on line, because that's how you get lukeduntil you get your account new is like saying the word vaccine all the time.Well, but I can say a see if we get new, I don't think you will but yeah youjust have banners over every day. Literally everything oppose how I W I'mso lise to it. I so I like a spot for my honor by this information. Is I e yeah,dumb usin her about vitamins go get the vaccine. My Gosh, I literally put up apost. The vie like devies on my family, takes that I take and my kids take thatwe take it. We start to get sick and they've got like the banner forcoviviis guys. I told you everything you need to know about big tech rightthere. They, like anywhere, I'm not gonna, go like flat. If flintstonesvitamins is getting a Covin, man come on like yeah, but Avin don't do it likejust I calm down, literally okay, so...

...here's your so box. What what's your?Why? Why such a big push on this? I don't know if I've ever had anybodyasking why. I think it's, because I think most people just want to beleft alone. I'm a libertarian at heart, like small government leave me alone.Don't hurt people don't take their stuff like on popular opinion. I don't think thatit should be governed government mandated, were se belt me wearing tosee all doesn't hurt you. It hurts me. So it's kind of the same thing with thevaccine, like people have been told by media that he, my vaccine contacts, youand that's bold, like no, I'm not in of VIRBOLG. Is I'm not a doctor, but I canread, and I can actually re research relatively well because, I'm a mildly,intelligent individual, and I understand that this vaccine first ofall, does it protect. First of all, it doesn't touch the delt of Arian and thealphabet is basically gone, so we're basically just dealing with adult ofArian people who are vaccinated with the dolt that that are vaccinated andthe same viral load as the unvaccinated with the Tulema. An if the same exact Iwill load. So you can get it. You can spread it. You can get really sick fromit. Now there's watch Israel why people who are ahead of us, Israel? They arelike ninety five percent vaccinated. They are having a way bigger surgesthan America is with really bad symptoms with hostilis tions withAlasian. They were all vaccinated so like. Why can't I just as an adultwho is responsible for everything else in my life he was serving a Pan, tatonsyou're sterting, to drive responsibly. You expect me to not shoot people. Whycan I do my own risk assessment that getting all the thin all the vaccine isgoing to do is protect to me I'm good with taking that risk. I amninety five point, like nine seven percent, chance of being it being a badflu. If I get Covin like, let me make my own riskassessment and make my own decision like do. We we've never there's always beenesential. Lowed people like Oh, like you get the flu shot over. You actuallyknow. I don't. I don't get the blues out of Er ear things for making thatassumption, but even if, where I went or worked or whatever required that Icould get a medical exemption, I could get a religious exemption, but nowthey're like completely eliminating that for the coved vaccine, which iscompletely lost. Our minds completely lost our minds, and you know you see places like Italy, where the vaccinated are burning theirvats and passports in solidarity with the unvaccinated in opposition to men. TANS YOU'RE!Never going to do that here. You never going to see that in America becausewe're we're just so lazy, we're so lazy and we're so selfish that, like people like, Oh, I got my ascene and I have my vaccine card. Like I'm good, I'm sorry, you can't go anywhere now,but I'm good so figure it out. Well, it'sGod! I want to make a lot masses on t o her own people out there. That wouldstay in solar with the unvaccinated, but I even have to talk about it islike the vaccinated and the Ounainetai it be starting on the comparisons with not a journey yeah. It's crazy that, like the conversations Iwas having when trump was still in office with like some of my CASS memberfriends at Disney and when he was like talking about thevaccine coming out- and I remember everyone that I've talked to was veryskeptical about it- it's rased yeah, I mean, and it waslike a I don't know, and and that could have been like something to dopolitically with the fat was that was Disney. CASTMATE is her even talkingabout like Caraher's. Do bienn saying when asked, would you take trump taxing?They were like. I don't think so now, they're time to federally mandated yeah, it's happening fast, like it justseems right, see and I'm not going to say like like for Ashly, and I like, we werevery much like. Do we take it? Do we not? We don't know because it's likeyou, you kind of have both sides playing, but for like the mandate,that's totally different in walliker you're, forcing it like somebody online.The other night was saying like they were, comparing it to like gettingtattoos or like eating hot dogs and stopping at Red Lights and, like allthese random things of sitting- and it was like, but no one's forcing you e todo those things like these ever force.

Me Like I do like like that's yourchoice and one of them was like it would and the girl responded, like youknow, it'd be like. If someone was like telling you hey, it would help peopleif you gave your kidney up, so everyone needs to like go, givetheir kidneys up and the girl was like yeah. You know I'll give my kidding upand she's like. Well, that's nice of you to say that, but it's a differenceof like you being kind enough to say likeI would give it out and you saying then you be forced to yes, that's adifference to prove that you can survive with one kidney, there'sdecades of science for sure to prove that you can survive of one kidneypeople. Do it all the time and it would help people it's been to and fiveminutes. We have you been timing la since we didstart havenae been around for eight months. Yeah, and you know the erely has been in development for all these years. Yeah I never as animalstudies, because all the rats died so like. No, this isn't the most rushedridiculous were seen so many avers reactions, so many adverse reactions, but those are, like you know, an anally not like okay,their science Bo to back. This is the fastest ecelo pacing in the history.The shortest development in history is ten years, is the shortest this one is eight months. Wasn't that is say what the it's not going to beout of experimental trials until twenty two and then at that point, will that mankey like let's say- and I just atinae my kids- is that because of whathappened with you? Yes, my daughter almost died a couple of days after shegot like a litany of shots, and that was because, like I was completelyuninformed as to what I was putting my kids body, you know if you were like.Oh, like calls you. If he has, she doesn't act, your kids, okay. Let Me Gae my own mist assessment. Letme take care of my kids like the way that I want to. You know they're notgoing to they're not going to bring back polio. My kids are not going to. Ibe the cause of the resurgent of Folio. You know, but and it's interestingbecause I used to be the MON that, like judged Calantha, didn't vaccinate herkids he's super judg about it. I don't know any kids around other kids arevaccinated. You do that. It's so selfish that now and then you hold yourthirteen months old, a he's, a thirty five minute seure and ends up ventilated and medicallyjus come up. She could have died yeah. She shouldhave died or been bran an Hesse's good. Now, she's five awesome praise go yeah, that's something o athing, so I mean that was a vaccine that they were telling you like, heyshe's got to get these and now, when you're holding her you'rethinking. Oh my goodness. What have I done and I'm sure you're your whole wayof thinking? Probably change of life because, like you were talking aboutearlier, just like America, doesn't fight back a lot of times bit oflaziness that I feel like just out comfort.Maybe just like we are so we've been conditioned to trust thegovernment. We've been condition to trust everybody in charge, whetherthat's big forma, big tech, the government. I sound like Sutraconspiracy there I gonna say this is Havin by rumble andare but we're not like these wild hairedbunker building crazy people like and then you you know everybody talks aboutlike you'll live in a echo chamber, which I have opinions on both mostpeople that I do life with think relatively similar to me. Theydon't l implicitly trust the government. They do invisente trust, big par or abig attack. They are relatively self sustaining and take care of like support their naturalmen systems and ask questions and are critical thinkers like there's so manymore of us us then to think tiger in the mind that you'recrazy, so then want yeah. I wonder why it is.I make it's because, like you have these huge, like media outlets outthere, that are all saying one thing but then, like you said you have allthese other people out there. You know...

...just call in the normal people orwhatever, and maybe like a few news outlets that are like kind of sayingspiking up for this side, but and it's so tough, because youliterally have one side saying this once I saying this and is completeopposite and they're both saying we have the science. We have the factslike that. We are correcting this and, like I don't remember that growing up,I mean it was like you had your local news right and- and you just took yourlocal news as Truth and get your in newspaper right for anyone. That's likesixteen or younger listeners to like what is he talking about? That's whatyour parents rent their ornaments in but like. I don't remember a time whereit was like such opposing pieces of information, and maybe that'sjust the age of social media like to yeah. Do you think that's just where weare now for the rest of history, no Iraliot just kind of hwhat's the? Whatare we doing? Where is this going? How does this get any better sore dividedthan ever, everything is divisive. Everything is divisive. hery potter isdivisive. You know what I mean like everything's,divisive everybody's mad about everything. Every thinks they're right. Everybodyelse is wrong and they're unwilling and sometimes incapable of civil discourse.I just kind of like literally like godlike. I don't know I don't know. Ido think you know. I think that people have have theseopposing like have been on both into this factorum, but we've just never hadthe access to the information that we have now, I think, plays a big part in it and dude. I don't know I don't know like II, like I struggle to get who I cut hopeless, sometimes like it feelshopeless, especially being like in the arena being like an active player inthe game or whatever there day like there were time foractitis on the Internet, because I've just got beaten to a pole in my dns orin my comments for like thinking for myself, it's crazy yeah, I mean you haveliterally made an ugly dm like it was like a video like it is supposedto be like an inspirational video of like ugly debs and I've seen this stuffof thinking. People are saying what like trying to attack, not let you butyour family and and I'm thinking like, are you having any civil discussionswith these people like, like the people that are on the other side that areopposing you? Have you ever once online had any kind of civil discussion? Theycome out. The gate guns blazing like that. I like, I hope you and your kidsget ovid and die. I know I'm not like responding to that. I Jonson found thatas block people like that, I think that there are people okay litup. Let's say like the most devising right now is vaccines right. I thinkthat there are people who are like I. I got a lot of you from a like I've gotin the vaccine, but I don't think that it should be man Dai. Think that youshould have a choice in rally. Those people aren't disagreeing with me. I don't think the people like if youwant to get the vaccine, get the vaccine. I don't care, I literallydon't care. I and I've Navy will not find on my platform a place where I amsaying, don't get the vaccine there's not. That does not exist, and I thinkthat there are like some sets of the population that should get the vaccine,but I don't care about you. It econe I care about it. You think me get the E.I care how I you think that it should be okay for the federal government tomake me get it, and so, honestly, the people whobelieve that who do believe that it should be mandated. I have not yetfound one that is kinfolks. That is like. Let's talk about, why I think the Venalgovernment so me when you and in the middle of all of this, likeVaccine Man Day Afghanistan, talk you just drop this big truth bomb andyou're, like hey, there's only two genders, that's like what's at the bottom may bedoing right. I eh what or things that like made, you postthat like what even caused you to have the idea of be like you know what istime yeah, let's, let's put this out there? Okay, so I love the Olympicsyeah the Olympics like his, since I was a kid so, Inter summer, seven o'clockby it like love Olympics, and so I'm sure most people are aware in know this.Our last Tokyofix there was a New...

Zealand Trans Woman, Yes transman, so man that wait, woman,you better get a rain who competed in the weight lifting competition whatever of the Olympics,and so it's a man who is transitioned to be a woman, who'scomputing him weight winding alongside other women and how watched aninterview by the woman, a New Zealander woman who this personLaurel Haward is the transman came in and destroyed all of her records. Allher world records she had said because she is a man Ay and she was devastated. Let's do thisdevastating, like all these things. Ye were for your whole life and then theIOC approved the Laurel could compete in the actual Olympics. Didn't Mettelsocked, then terrible, but I'm just like in so then I'mreading an article about we, how the is came to the decisionthat they came to allowing world to compete, and it's like Morce on a testosteronetest that they did within six months. So in this six month, window Laurel hadto meet these certain test. Ostron markers and was allowed to compete was.Is We have reduced motherhood? Every mother had womanhood to a test astarn worker, to blood testthat, on top of the NHS in Europe coming out with language about chest,feeding, instead of restating and pregnant people, I mean birthing peopleinstead of mothers, and I'm just was like. We are racingwomen as we know it just skating yeah. What do you mean like they wanted totalk chesing at a resky because they're putting babies up to men like men who are now women's chest? Yes, butthere's no milk is there. I don't I mean, there's a that's a very, verybig assumption of you make me man, I'm just saying O yeah. If I transitionedto a woman, I could still not produce milk right. I don't think so. I meanI'm asking for I mean I don't know what science is capable of now I did watchvideo of a trans woman trying to rescue and beinglike it's not working he's your wany. Wasn't he and they were married to probe. I don'tknow I can't some candy to I can't I don't know, I can't jump through thehoops like I don't know, but that was what brought is appointed just the postwas like. We are raising women as we know it. Where are the feminists we're afeminist villain? We got such a nine past. Wegot women sports funded, we got you know, we've done all this work where. Why are you not angry that menare like demolishing women's World Records in sports? Why? Where are youwith the mail to female transition? That's plainsoccer along these girls who play like my seven year old play soccer and she'sgood at it and she loves it, but the idea that she could like get acollege scholarship which would be awesome. It's go and then have to playwith a man. How is that? Okay? How is that? Okay, Ijust don't. I don't understand it and that's one thing that I'm like I liketo believe about myself that I'm relativelycapable of giving myself there you can get to likeokay. I can I care you can get there through a series of trap doors this one,I'm like yeah am life. I okay follow me here onthis one, a I love the movie. Yes, man have youseen it the Johari one kind of thing: okay, absolutely huge fan of yes, man,okay, because I love the philosophy behind like say yes to lie, say yes,but I feel like any opposite way that that is like culture is like if you'renot saying yes to every single idea and thing as being put out into the world,then you are a horrible person like if you say no to anything O that you areevil you're, the villain, you're...

...unloving right and as this is lovingJesus. I love these people, so, okay, so agreeing and loving ears. Anonymousnow right, I I mean yeah. I should agree with my husband, a hundredpercent. That's a! I don't love him. I sense yeah so and if, like you weresaying it, if you can't agree and like this keepsgoing on, is the world ever going to get to a point where it's too much likelike? What do you think that there will ever be a point where it's not justpeople like you or me, or whatever other like Christian leaders, are likestepping up to say like speak against this stuff? Do you think there will bea time where the world actually says? Okay, guys, like maybe we have taken ittoo far? I don't know so. I pray for that. Like yeah, you can't think ofanything that would make them, because I mean like thinking about a bunch ofwomen in the Olympics, all getting beat by transgender, like like man who transported to women like.I would think that that would rughe a lot of feathers. He would think and like the fit like us as women, soccer team, very feminist,if they got beat by some other team, it was all dudes that a transition towomen, but I think they're so woke they be. Like t honestly, I feel like everything thathappens, I'm like this is it. This is: What's going to unite us likeAfghanistan, how are we not united about what's happening at Yeisan? How?How do I go at were not its Ole Omayya won't ever know? Maybe we won't everGit to that point now. I think the people have been. Theleft has been more critical, a thing in doling about gas that Ithought they would yeah. I thought they would be like carrying by his water,like I thought they would be in just going to bat for him, but I just awesome, which is great. I Ho Li,but if you're not a conspiracy, there is your like, but why? What do you who you up to see an I'lltry to twenty? Why? Why do you sound rational as a n, but I I don't know. Idon't really answer that question. It's like it came to the other night. Are Wewhat great? What in a world am I going to anmy kids like shoot? You know, I don't know yeah and I mean I think, a lot of thesethings. People will I see them on your platform. Saying, like you know, don'ttalk about this like. Why are you? Why are you giving your opinion on thesethings, whether it be Afghanistan or mandates or genders, whatever its mento yeah, but it's like they're not complaining about the accounts that areall talking about mill, pray challenges right now, but it's like I for somereason that they have to try to put you in this box and a lot of times. I feellike Christian influencers. It's like! Oh, if you're not talking about thingsof the Bible, then it's not okay, but then it's like they're on justexclusions and it's typically like funny videos and like light heartedcontent right. So why is it that when you talk real and like get into likethe dirt of Non Biblical conversations that people won't have aproblem with us? Oh, I can be like won't you stick to what you think. Youknow commenting all the time and what a I don't. I don't feel saying.I don't know I because here okay, just can'tunderstand like do you want me to just stay in my corner. You want me to stay.My comfortable Fluffy, Bible, Wers, God is love. Cornerboy do that Jesus was involved in politics. Esther was involved in politics, DavidMoses. There is a line of Biblical characters who were involved in thepolitical structure of the country and the time that they lived in, and maybewe've gotten where we are today, because Christians believe they're notallowed to be involved in the issues of today and and in politics like maybewe're where we are are today, because Christians have fallen back to justbeing like it Jes Lak da money dance like do what we expect. If you put onconference, make everybody comfortable remind them that Jesus loves them andlike stay safe, like Jesus wasn't safe. That is not safe. I don't want it onlydangerous for the don and that got so. I was free laws, polly side M, so Ihave to I do not end up going through...

...and getting my law degree because life changes, and I don't think that I wassupposed to. I don't think that's what God had for me, but I do have someknowledge and some ability to like. I can read a bill and it makes senseunderstand how politics work to an Undergrad degree. So, like maybe I'm using my gifts, the way the God intends me to, but theywant the whole. You know like they want the entire Christian body to look thesame, and you would- and I don't say this inlike a like look at me way but like you, wouldbe hard pressed to find another Christian influence. Or that looks likeme right now. That's like talking about the hard stuff you can have politicalcommentators, but there are very few of them, are openly Christian or are abusing the Bible and Christian concepts intothe conversation of politics and again I don't think that that, like don't see,that thing is on like I'm, some like great, you know whatever, but it's necessary. Like it's needed righthow people are looking for that? They want to understand, what's happening inthe world, they want, they want to be educated and they love Jesus a lot and I just think we've been solda lie and love in Jesus disqualifies. You from these conversations life. Youhave boll, he's a problem actually yeah, because it's like, if you're theonly one out there saying these things and they haven't found. You, which Imean the reason why we wanted you on the shows, because you are saying thesethings, but you know if they haven't fant you in all the Christian. Yet,let's just not even say Frisian piles, just say people that believe againstwhat the big media is saying and they're, all just being quiet andthey're going about doing like their own things, then, like the averageperson is just sitting around they're just going to like hear it, whatever isbeing said to them and they're just going to take it as well that that iswhat it is and and we move forward, we move on and I yeah, I think, that's ahuge disservice. But here you are like taking all the burden and getting yourdems filled and having all this hate come at your way like does that haveany effect on you like anxiety, mental health, even physical health. It can get to a certain point where itdoes. I do think that there's a degree to which he has built for this, like Idon't generally care what people think about me. Most of Lithe, ugly things, people sayrules right off my shoulders, but it can. It has gotten to a point where I'mlike. Okay, I got to take a break. I need to step away for a minute, sosally the compromet kids, that's just like really triggering for me, go be on the Ingram a so I kindof don't give a crap. You know, and I have really beenboundaries with my social media and a jack take free on breaks, becauseit's a job, IC social made is my job and if you have a healthy relationshipwith your job, you take brings from it. So you know, but I want to go back osomething that you said. I do. I don't fault the Christian influer that aren'ttalking about this stuff and I think that there's like a problem within likesocial media culture, is this, like weird expectation that, like followersgone, O quote, will have of the people they follow like. Why are you talkingabout Gamston? Aren't you talking about vaccines? Who are you talking on matsand just like, I think, that's unfair as well. There are simple that justthat's not their wheel house, it's not a got to got them to talk about like ina world, that's saturated and in idaten inundated with this being just. I feelslike all we're thinking about and all we're talking about. I personallyappreciate the influences that I follow that feel, like a reprieve from thatstuff that are like talking about other things, I don't refording the biblicalconcepts that aren't this stuff, so you know I've personal relationship to somethere's some huge influencers who are in my dams like. I feel like I'm like supposed to talkabout this, but I don't want to do it so well then, like I first, I can't tell you how to use iton your platform, but see of all like not like I tank about Socius epose. It leads meto an the host or sot need to talk aboutthe stuff. Don't do it because that's not a badlike that's gonna, go really madly really fast. So I think that that'senough, like that's the other side of that coin, I do. I are here some that I knew if yee the same exact wayas I do that have bigger platforms in me that I wish would like use a a thisof yeah, of course, like I, I that...

...would be really bet ficial to thepeople that are following them, but cancel folder and the mom are reallyscary and if you're a whole, you know livelihood is built on Instagram andthey come for. You like it's just it's so complicated and it's just not like aone way issue, so I just want to make sure it was there like. Yes, this ishow I use my platform, but I don't think that that means that otherChristian influences, like don't fold them for not and getthat yeah. So then what was it that made?You decide then, to go down this path. I think I just have fed up honestly, soI was on like on the Internet for a good two years before and had a hard,no politics rule through the two thousand and sixteen election likenothing. I didn't talk about politics at all like a hole and then Ijust have fed up at some point. I think I think it was. I think it was like last so now, I'm trying to remember like when Ireally got into. I think it was last summer when people were talking about people whovoted for trump like they were just these like racist, bigoted, transpose,formal idiots and just being like, and I think I had multiple covers a Thatsa.I local conversation for people who knew I was going to vote for Tom, how I really get your podcast now I was going to vote for Tom who werelike. How can you do that like? How can you love Jesus and over this man- and Iwas like okay but like without this policy and this policy, and what he'sdone for this second of the population a and they had no idea. I didn't knowhe seen Ole things about troms policies and I was like. Oh that's, that's Proso my fore into politics inline started with. Yes, he's a pain in the, but I wish he would shush. I don'tthink that you should be the platform, but I wish somebody would like a socialmedia manager with I a twitter like he was crass and he was he was just kind of like sowing, but look at his policies and the policiesat that man put in place position. America like really well for minorities and the majority. You know, and then you have peopletaking his these things that he said completely out of contact in it soundlike he was just raging racist. You know, so I be like okay tell me why youthink trump is racist and they be like well. He called all Mexicans Rapis,like he watched the clip he called m histhirteen who was a gang out of Mexico, made upof drug dealers and rekis. He called Fen Wapis, but they sliced that clickof and make this on. Yo just call ax, you know context yeah, and so you know,Biton holding the whole reason he ran was the good people on those sides thanthat he said in Charleston. The trump was like talking about the Statutitaken down and he was like. There were very good people on both sides ofpeople like they were Veo, noctis and skin hits there he's like now. He wastalking about he talking about that. There were people there protesting thehistoria context of this statue being taken down, but they sliced it up and he did soundlike he was saying. Do not. These were good people so anyway, that that reallyis where it started for me was just wanting to educate people on okay, let's put aside, is glaring personality cause and look atlike policy of her personality, and I think it was effective in that you know,and I had a lot of deans rom people that were like I was going to goprovided and because I also at some point started putting in front ofpeople what I actually stood for like have you read the equality? Have you read the Green New Deal? Youknow like showing people what they were voting for? It was more than just this,like Squeel van that you didn't have to worry about his tweets, and so that's really like weird. Itstarted in the a tack when I had opened panes box. I mean I feel, like the Pandora's box of politics was open thisyear with things that I've never heard before is like the balance that, like the voting system,that was like Frangula, I mean just so many things, but I think that, like I W, I talked to my friends allthe time with a bow just like okay. Well, what's the solution like? Whatcan we I do here...

...to make this any better like? Do youget the person to a place and like try to educate them a little bit, becauseright now, I feel like a lot of it is kind of what you said of people justlike. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh I didn't know that and you just go in andthey've been raised either red or they've been raised blue and they justmark it down. I mean, as for the president, let alone the other, whichhe of this, that a matter so much and people don't think it matters right,and it's just like, oh well, I was raised on this team. You know you knowI was raised. The Yankees Fan always a Yankees Fan. I was raised a lot. I'm abraves fan, okay, okay, then yeah, I'm just saying like a lot of people, Ithey kind of band wagon and their team, and I think that, sadly, it works forpolitics, and so I'm like okay is the answer to this. Not just having to you know like a bi partpartisan, like two parties, because when it's too it's so easy to justchoose this or that we have more main options. I think maybe that would be able to. I don't know, help people or like makeit harder to decide. I don't know I so much more positive and hopeful than Iam why I want to have a positivity. Sowith all of this happening, do you like you, got a degree? You went to a s,Primo, okay, amazing, good, hang, yeah! You guys can actually win nationalchampionships. My team cannot come on to India users. It's all right. I love their coach, hislike new love, everyone yeah, so I'm like Hey, we've got the coachand the teams like actually making into Bull Games but anyways, I digress yeah,so you go to l e this degree. I mean I also got a degree that I'm not using,but what was it for you like for me it was the vomiting every morning as ateacher and just like having too much anxiety, I think and like the pressureof being a perfectionist, but first graders man have one of those andyeah so like what made you not just follow your degree and I did go his path inlove. I really Super Bon yeah. I started dating this guy, my lifefestinger college and he was dynamic and like he always think it was like acircus liker personality and just like people draw him and he s not like causeit abusive, and so we do word college and I was gettingmy pretty long, Undergrad fully verve. I wanted to bewore since I was seven years old and was like then go to law school andsomehow I like my sophomore junior year. This is the stupidest story in thisstory so much he decided that he wanted to be a football coach, wow like collegit or eventually NFL level. That's a noi that we werejust talking right, and so he was really in love with him. Wal He'snot the coach of Indianess, no he's not a never. He didn't even actually gointo that. Oh, my yes, and so anyway, like some one on him, he iscareer, half trump to mine, and I have like I've shore with anxiety and stufflike that, since I was a kid and wasn't comediae or sole, very stable at all,and so I just kind of was like okay, I thought we would get like a new. Youknow like the typical southern Baptists, like we get engaged right around. Wegraduated and get married and coaching was going to be like a track. You knowcoaching families travel the time and are like just kind of transplanted, andI was just like I like I made my fleein him. So did they gradually with in theclasses that I needed to go to law school, and then he cheated on me with like afriend of mine and broke up with me for her wow in toss kind of like so you left like what you're planningon doing for him made him my plan and then he made menot his plan yeah, it was rough. I mean you know. I was only we likeyoung heart break, but it was so much more than just like the loss of arelationship, and I don't regret it. I...

...truly don't like I know like a Rasa.God bless Er, O yeah. You know like whatever you are a country girl, YeahYeah, I'm sorry douse, but I don't. I don't regret it. I don't. I wouldn'tchange it, but it's still. Some like cocker yeah, I mean an you breakup, is hard and when you find out that you left what you wanted to do and thenhe leaves you for what who he is doing, I mean that that hurts yeah. I D I meanI've had not heard in my life, but you know you go from being cheated on tofinding Jeremy a. How did that happen? Was it like a media? It was it. We werefriends already so jar husband and we have been friends for about a year orso by then, and he knew my ex like we all three like knew each other jerysound and a half years older than me as I was twenty one and he was like a fullone: Adult alike literal child, and he maybe two weeks after that relationshipended he swooped in and did the ethalion of her for you. If you even totalk to so yeah, he was playing in the likechurch. Softball invaded me to come to the game, and that was it like we were.I I think I was in love with them after our first date. Why is it then tacticof every man just wain it so very typical in the bushes and he lovestelling or when that story is told, because you just like a like, I was,but I mean you know, like God, used him to Ye me and Ye Hardin. He couldn'thave done that. I thought I was going to be single like I was fully perverlike I was like this gone a season singles I need to heel from all thisbowl. Like that's quick yeah. We got engaged a year later, and I marriedfive months after that and how long have you guys been together now foreleven years in total eleven years, all yea talkingto the guys before we started to, I was like wind it that we only count likepeople always ask like how long have you met the married and they don't havetoll even to get a like. I was ask how even together yeah, because it's unfairlike if you've been dating and for five years and maybe that guy just likecouldn't pull the trigger. You know there are those guys out there. Youlike been married for, like six months like you've, been together almost sixyears, yeah guy. So I oh well how long you guys been married six months andalso guys are just figuring you now. You know right exactly, but you guyshave been together a long time like what's the secret sauce Jesus yeah, he a each other, is polaropposite completely. What like, what what do you? How do you define polaropposite fire Nice, like he's the chillest, most consistent, steady, Imother, I mean he's he's amazing, but he's so chill and I'mlike angry about everything. Always you seemagree in the hole you, let's see to the hall ever fingers like. Do you want toknow my secret? I'm always angry that I mean he does pretty much alwaysangering yeah, so okay, Jesus holds you together. Is that, like you guys bothhave amazing spiritual life like independently and together? Does thatmean that you guys, you know like going to church ishelping you does that make you a devotional is helping you like? Whatexactly is it about like she that, because you said you're like fire andice so like, I think it's a common denominator? Okay, like I do I do my we both do. Our best rightwith hope is as a believer that you're looking at other people and seeing themthe way that Jesus sees them that radically changes all of yourrelationships, so that forces you to assume the bestabout somebody that forces you see their strength instead of theirweaknesses that Jesus and then that's what our marriage is built on is wedecided- and I wish more people would get married because of this, and wedecided we were more dangerous for the kingdom together than apart. That's areally good reason to get married. I think that he's like Jesus just ever really iseverything like he's the foundation he's the reason he's what we have incommon he's. What we why we do, what we do outside of our marriage outside ofour home,...

...you know, even in the darkest seasonsof our marriage. Wiser have been. It was Jesus that kept us togetherbecause we knew like I really believe at Jesus's heart is, but the nuclearfamily like Jesus as hard as for marriage and honestly, what kept us together withthings were really bad was the enemy? Would love that I we enemy would lovefor the circumstances to pull US apart and for us to be a statistic, bus to beone or marriage that falls by the way side and Jesus is hard as for us tostay together, and so we did it and like there areobvious Cai cavias to that, like abuse and and all that kind of stuff that,like Jesus hates, he hates that stuff. You know I just doesn't want to do tostay with somebody. That's abusive, Tellin, our marriage right, but I dothink that a lot of a lot of the Christians have just as have a divorcerate as non. Our divorce rate is exactly the same. UNDIVORCED reallyyeah like it's it's exactly the same. We are no different and we hold thekeys. You know the guy that created it. Why do we have better in this yeah? I got a lot of fly in my marriage when so my wife, my exwife, had an affair, and I was like trying everything to like fight throughit. You know a make o work and I was giving a flag of like why are yousaying you know in this from her a thing outside yeah from other peopleyeah? I idea that you know people I o fish, that's flash be like my are finding forthis right. That's like your justice, complex right, like I've, seen God ver, storeand flourish, relationships that were impacted by affairs in both parties, wanted it to work because not holy help.What a story I look at God did right, but that's my God, that's myguy's. What my God does you know and so, like? I think thatthat's I don't know, I soulis a flash of you like response they're like Oh,like she longed you, you wrong. Her Hol find that Bible verse for me. Pleasenow that get it and get it sometimes I irete like sometimes it's so brokenbecause of infidelity or because of the lack of faithfulness or woof whatever,and I don't follow people for that like I don't want to sound like I'm up onthis high wars, like God, loves marriage and should neverget divorced, and I got it were human. The world is broken, but I just wonderif people didn't fight for their marriages morewhat it would look like yeah I mean I tried yeah I mean I thought that I dideverything that I could yeah. You know it's like. If both partiesaren't agreement to go forward, then yeah, it's probablyjust not going to work. I absolutely it's got to be mutual. Have you andJeremy had anything in your time together your marriage, where youthought like couldn't we we like it's either, you know five or flags. Yes, Imean we had. There was a moment we hit the sevenyear itch real hard. I curious was that your post about like the hardest timein your life. It was like July of two thousand and twenty, and I think I wrote it down or June twothousand and twenty July, twenty twenty most painful seasonyou made a post about. Is that that no? I think that that was the mental breakdown. I had earlier this year, okay, we we can get to that that okay, so yeahwhat happened with you in German yeah, we like so I stroit anxiety or of thedepression, that's a real cute mix and there was some west an fat full action on a party's part,nothing crazy. There wasn't y Goin to figure, but one of us when looking for somethingthat we weren't getting from our marriage, which can be a lack of faithfulness.Okay and just like get an emotional sense. You know like an inappropriatefriendship and then we and eventually got a form we were like saving on ourcaging comer and as at I'm, giving an apartment. I don't want to do this withyou any more you suck the life out of every roof. Your in it be easier toraise these kids without you some time I think, you've gotten. He got mad atme because my car was messy he's like very he's, not obs bees. Verycleanliness is important to him and he was not in that season and we talkedI'm not like throwing him out of the Bas at we talked about this pobbybefore like he was not in that season.

Willing to. I give great handle noopacity of giving anybody any grace and so being like. Okay, you drive a onethree year old around all day every day and show me your spotless truck kind ofthing, and he like had some retort and as I in time and in doing this with youthen, and that I'm on not getting apartment, and that was like a huge wig,a call for him and not till. I was not innocent in that situation, but I feltlike I was the only one doing the CPR on a dying marriage and I was trying to resuscitate it andhe was deprived and he was checked out and he was just not involved, and so I was justlike this be easy without you, and that was like a huge wake up call for himand he like went to the doctor and at diagnosed with a few things andmedicated, and we started going to counseling together, and so I mean ittold me be a like I'm John en done with this with you for us to turn it around. Who did wow yeah it was it looking back. wasthere anything leading up to that that you can see now like just for likeanybody listening or watching this of like it, because I think that thelittle things creep up on US yeah, you know like the Devil's plan- is not justsend a demon into our life and just be like you know what today's in a fairday like yes, yesterday, everyone was happy. Everything was great right.Let's just do an affair today right and I think yeah so like was there anythingleading up to that that you see yeah. I didn't really like him verymuch. I realized I didn't really like him do not enjoy him. We become like ships passing in thenight. Like you go this. I do this that we weren'treally having sex a whole lot, which I think is really important in a marriage. Do you think section be like a paidtwice a week kind of thing? I don't think it's start of a like moirilvalues on that Chink. Every couple is different, but I think if you're notprioritizing sex in our marriage, your rare is going to suffer cat, but yeah I mean I think, I'm trying tothink. If there were like fate. Like I don't remember, realizing I didn't likehim. I don't think he liked me very much either like an we've said that,like I loved him, because he was the fond of my kids and we've been togetherfor eight years by then, and we built his life together and they were also, Ithink we under thine something under valet like therewere alts really therfor outside, like circulate circumstances like o thingsoutside and just our marriage like life continues right. The life is happeningall around you and there were some difficult things happening in thatseason. They kind of like applied more pressure to an already pressure cookersituation. I at think of anything that I wool backin I like that thing. I think it was just webecome Anibal about one another and that's Hatita's a resier disaster. Were you guys the Times that were like going out dates? I mean because onceyou had kids, I'm sure it was very tough. Did you feel like having kids?Maybe was like part of that of, like all the focus went into like O. we'venever been like that, like we've, never been, we've never prioritized our kidsover our marriage. Even when it was wroth, we were spiriting our kids overage. I think it was just in it was a mix of like mental health issues were making an effort we becomingDevilin and I think, like we also want to rot. I think the Viene was attackingour marriage because yeah we hate Prussian marriages, you know, and so and that's actuallyJerry was the one that really like became aware. Like a wake to that andwas like this is. The ACE is an me trying to take us down. There's noreason that we should be here if we have were built on Oli ground, like he's feeding US lines about oneanother, for believing on kind of thing and through like going to counselingand starting to really bad an effort with one another, you were able to and diction andcounselling- and you know like that kind of stuff we were able to and nowlike. We jokingly talk about all men, so we always do in you talkabout our marriages, a video game. You must play video games, it was play. IOkay I'm intrigued, but we talked about it like levels like de Loaf. You knowlike we've levelled up and the word o that and but sometimes you like levelsout like someone die. You know like it's. You like me we're at like. We are at the highestlevel of the marriage, video game that we've ever been right. Now, that's amazing, yeah! What video gameare you thinking is this Mario? I am...

...yeah in my head. It's for a definitelyman. Next time you come back to you. Orlando you'll have to go to SuperNintendo land, but pen like the dude. Now what I oian believe, that's a thingI eneroth okay, so counseling being diagnosed and medicated of figuring out like okay. There is aproblem here like a you know and acknowledging. There is a problem if itwas the Ingram. Also I help it. I know that you talk about the Anagram. I knowthat I'm on to say. I know that Ashley's and three, my dad joke is thatif you put it seven and three gether were perfect in that time. I knowkindergarten math right, but yeah, I'm curiously, because that'sas far as my intire knowledge goes is just knowing my number, knowing herslike pretend you're giving your ten talk onany grain like teach me a yeah. What what is it about it? That makes youlike love its event. You know like it's, your writer die. We go fast and furiousand like what is it that makes it word to help relationships. I say the Ingramhelps save by marriage like it was a tool, the values to help save mymarriage, so I'm in eight and then you're envoler man, jerry a one. What's that mean so the aims thechallenger and the one is the refection ist again, two of the most oppositenumber siren tires, but basically I mean if people people that aren't awareof the of what the integram is, which would be shocking, because most peopleknow what it is now, but ten agree on it. Just me just you know what theUnion is. I'm talking when people don't know what the Agram is. Okay, I getit's like a personality, typing tool, AK fires, breaks or the color system,there's nine types and at any given time you are coined to five types. Sopeople say that the Neber like put you in a box, but I think then you canactually let you out of the box. So as an eight, I am connected to my sevenand nine win. That's three times are there and youhave a lot of health and you have a lot of stress. So when I'm stressed I go toa five and when I'm healthy, I go to it too. So you were not like bound by your one,eight and like this is all you've got when I get to five numbers on theAnagram at any. Given time. I don't know what yours are all them ofthose a okay yeah like okay, you got a tail, so is it like every seven isgoing to have these two same wings? Yes, so your wings are on either side ofyour number. The ABRAM is a circle. Okay and then my went happy that whenI'm Ye you're crazy, so you grow towards a five which means, which iswhat I stress towards. So the five is the intellectual. It's like the verylike research gy. I want to understand how things work why they do what they do. That's one ofmy health is in your health, like when you're healthy, and then you stresstowards the one. So when you're stressed you go towards like you can become very profection, isticor critical and yeah yeah Goshoo like for me as an aid like when I'm health,when I'm healthy, I go towards two and I become more caring. I more empathetic,I always say like emys, the biggest thing that struggle with, like you good and when I'm growing I do some dirt onexactly like. I want to help people and like certain people, and when I'mstressed so I miss time is a five as a just kindof a stressed is we're like my research brain comes in, which is where, like alot of my legins agram content, is very data and statistic and study based isthat's my like five, so you're always dressed no but yeah, yeah, okay! So now I know yours and Iknow mine but like how does it help in a relationship because like knowing?That is right? Well, that I big WOP right right? Okay, so then so thinkabout how that helps. You understand yourself a little bit better, nor, likeOh, like when I get really critical and perfectionistic. I'm not functioningAbou healthy itself. So flip that and look at that from Ashley's like learn,you learn all of that about Ashley's about as a three and then you can seethat in them, and you can understand that, like so for me with Jerry Jerey'sone. So He is pretty Cole and perfectionistic and very like deposit,and I'm like black right, like naturally barely like messy, and I meanI organize, because if I'm not, I will log lose everything, but I'm not like Iclean person.

So it's terrible, I m just like notlike just more important things made in the longer being folded and put away orlike the dishes being done. Those are things are very important to him. Butif I understand a one- and I understand why that's important to them, becausethe Ingram tells you why you do what you do not just what you do, then I can looking up and say you notcursing you just did a welcome you it out if you're not just being a dick about thedishwasher you're. It's part of your wiring that things need to be right andjust and dumb the correct way, and so it helped me understand him andvice versa. So he was able to look at eight and be like you're, not just picking a fight. Thejust have talk, you just start like expressive a loudor I have a betrayal complex. I always think like I struggle with believingpeople are always going to train me. This goes back to only childhood O,which is a part of the Ingram. So when he sees me like bucking up to somethingnow, he knows me well enough to know I'm not picking a fight. I M trying topetat myself from potentially being wounded by the trial, so it just givesyou like to me. It put words to things Icouldn't say about myself so that the road back to you is butbeat in Morgan Crown, and it's no be like so Syrilla e, the Bible of theIngram, and it like the First Padre chapter is, you might be a native andit's like a check list and that helps you find your type asfar as well as like reading the chapters but- and I couldn't get in toread the whole book is not a reader, but I was able to get him to like RedOne and read a and actually funny story. The I readhim like the first page, if you might be in Atis and like red it off, and hewas like. Oh that's really good. Who did you write that for like he thought it was so neat that hethought I'd like Ridin for a block post or something? So how about that? Your spoon feedinghim this like? Oh, you don't want to learn about Phanar. I will literally reyou, Oh my God, but I do get to read the twochapters. Okay, I did you did you write one and he read a he rathe or you rentthem to no. He actually read them in a ushinish. Him read them and I listenedto him say things that I knew you could only know if he really read them. I wasjust showing about you watching him, but you've literally like watched himread this like okay. Just I just know that, but he's saying something: It'slike okay, he did get it yeah and it gave us the tools to understand oneanother, but I don't know what would have foundotherwise, so you could recommend like everymarriage, every relationship, maybe not, if like it's like a little kids datingor something like a middle school, but like you're, saying on any seriousrelationship if they want to invest in themselves, invest in the other personlike know myself know who they're with and like best be able to love them. Imean it's like the five love languages, but like exactly to a t. They work.Very five of them does in a new room work very well together. It also helpsme as a parent, because you can type your kids by the time they're like fouror five, usually Terli Ellis to nat like I am, which is interesting and then P C is afour, and so it gives you empathy and graceto your kids as well. These little people that have been emotions thatthey don't yet have a language to communicate and I feel like I have to go, look innecessary like have you other people think the Anagram is evil because ithas like some potential may ties to the occult it doesn't and also like. I justbelieve that I can redeem and use anything but is feel like necessarily feelinggiving the necessary dister, because people always in did you know on getsname. I got it. Thank you, so I'm so excited for every one of ourvideos and's going to have a disclaimer in front of it like just so. You areaway or covies just so. You are aware. Anagram is not a sorry yeah. I bringthe banners, I think you're going to bring the trolls like the O, mentorsthey're just going to be like she's, not even a real Christian. Now arhotter the India gram. I almost had a divorce, I like don't have the vaccine.Definitely I am saving or it ever I mean I feel like I a lot of those things as well. Yeah talmost divorced, like I am a yanks okay, so did learning about the engram helpyou to understand why your husband doesthirty minute, poops a no. So I notfigure that...

...it's not just my husband, it was thefunniest post. Am I going through and it's all this serious stuff and it'slike my husband is thirty minute poofs yeah and I was like. Actually I got toshow this to you and she was like so he's you yeah. What is your ma? What isasking me? You know what are you okay, sea dtose like Jenny, willy and like wewere a rush. I'm like brought out a pack, what you thirty men, who tie wegotta go, make it a quickie. Does he ever say like? Oh, you know, I'm justgoing to go to the bathroom real quick, but then it's always thirty minutes ordoes he have something he wants to get Bukit? It's something he needs tooimportant to get to that. It's not a Ardoina! Oh, so it's not like ananatomical thing. T ask: Is it a typical thing, for you? Are you okay ina way? Yes, and no like I, I think that I trained myself as a kid that I wasnot planning on going this deep, and here we are okay, it I'll just let thecrap out here. So as a kid. My reading time was always when I went to thebathroom and I would read the old game pro magazines like I was an a big likevideo game. Is You in now? I think so, and so I'm like sitting. You know- andI think I just trained myself like, because I I would usually like readinga certain amount of articles that would be like a half an hour so like thatwould be my reading time. It would kind of- and so I just developed thatreading and it takes you that long to pope to read the article groping thewhole time. No, what then, what are you doing? Okay I'll tell my story, but I also want to hear what you thinkJeremy's doing an figures on to that's it, that it is that's what I wasthinking like taking a brain like. Oh my gosh, I'm so I stressed out we're ina high a book bathroom. Let's think this up and no one's going to comearound like okay. So so, for me, is a couple things sorry is about to beTioka but number one reading number two I feel like. If I have sat there and I'vedone the deed, I've dropped the duce taken the browns in the super bowl andI immediately like get up like wrap it up and get up. I feel like I'm unclean,like I feel like I need a shower. I think I need em to day like that.Maybe I help make one at like so hopper toilet. Oh, I know I froyle. I wouldlaugh go day and he's like seven minute poofs, but I tinamus I do I feel like I needto sit there and just kind of like let it I don't. I do so on my phone and Ialso do a I do reading, but it is a time for me to like meditate and likerelax, and I don't I'm sure, I'm not the only one.I know you that there go for a run. Let go what why sin on the toilet, whatyou all have decided to do with your time? Don't judge us! I am judging. You,hang e, that's being with our children all day and you be home, and you heardmy hope absolute. Not. So what is what is your?I guess I like way to run before I take a bath where I play that you can be abook and so the like smell on boot for hardy had well. Do you be flush afteryou a stay, the whole room? I was saying for Jermy, maybe ten kids andeveryone I'm not trying to keep anyone away like if I actually wanted to walkin now. That would be weird sorry, yeah,that's a good ter, but but that's a guitar o set turn okay, okay, anyways speaking aboutcrap, one of the things that I know that you have a belief in. Like yourphilosophy and I've heard you say: yeah, it's going to be a big TURD righthere ar turn. You said something- and I heard a videoand it kind of contradicted everything that I'm like been taught in a churchlike growing up of like it's okay, to talk, crap about your spouse, it's okayto like talk frap about your significant other and not like Tanzaniayeah, not necessarily talk Cravit, just like be critical of them to friends tolike close people. You were you're talking about your makinggeneralizationst and the don't feel...

...like that's what I said, yeah sorry, Lo,let me or Le Me Grant this up, so I had always been taught. I don't ever sayenything negative about your Smith. Another right! Don't ever talk badlyabout them in public like everything bad of this happening in ourrelationship at you trying to like you internalize you keep it it within yourhouse right if you protect the tribe right, okay, right so yeah. Now I'm not saying that you'regoing out and just like talk crept about it. You know bankers, guess right, but be you have like a middle roundyeah between light going out, like I said, and just trashing you're seingthem together and then just not saying anything to anyone and then likeholding that in yeah, and then it probably is going to explode too wellso yeah. What is that middle prating today, because I hate, like husband,bachan culture, yeah hate it that I'm sorry that it was sounding like I waswith. I hate that, though I hate, like the stereotype of a bunch of womensitting around at happy hour and just are bout. How terrible their husbandsare hate that, because that permeates unto what you believe about yourhusband and when you live by your marriage. But I do think that the I hate theother side of it as well, where you never ever ever ever ever say anythingnegative about your husband ever because, like you said you in Tournaithat something we come better and take it out on your husband, because younever, you have to talk to anybody about it and, like Ess. Obviously yourStoush the most idea to have a ideal person to have those conversations with,but I think we have to have trusted individuals, whae proven theirweight over years, who are invested wor for your marriage that you can go toand say the oops kids are making me nuts. I can't take this anymore or somethingmore serious that, like that T, takes work to createrelationships that that's safe. That, like I have a lot two friends like thatthat I know that I'd be like you know, I n talk about O my husband'sfull like an Strollin border line were coholic. He works a time by choice. I struggle with that some times for ourfamily daname, because our family dynamic is so important to both of us,and I have like two people in my life that have been my friends for years,that I love Jeremy Er for him that I can go to and say I frustrated about this Liz and they'regoing to, if necessary, Valida that that that's oI get out that suffering. But let's remember like I was trying to assumethe mass bad jeremy he's doing this because he lost her family because he wants to go to bat for all, because youwant to provide you with the best life. You can. Okay, what we do about itHavin you have a conversation about it. What is what do you think? God isthinking about this? Not Somebody that's going to bash him, because I don't ever want to enterthose conversations bashing him. I want to enter those conversations, I'mstruggling because it's human relationships and some marriage andit's founded on Jesus as made it Tom OBE struggles, but I think it's A. I dothink it's really important to have. I if you trusted people that you can goto and say like this is happening, I'm struggling and even if they don't have advice ofjust saying it out loud is not that he can be lirala beneficial but hope thehope is. They can come back and say I assume the best Bakour, spouse and kind of like how maybe e, like outsideperspective, can't see more both trees like you're, so Nevin it you're. Like Idon't even know. I don't even know what to do. You know to say they can kind ofhelp. Give you some guidance there, I think, is like a really good Mintarobetween like bashing your husband and never saying a egide thing. Yeah arethese two girls, people from the Church that you've met through like a smallgroup or they just like life off Fred? Yes, one of them is a life one friend,the other one. I've had a church, we just met it a church o but yeah. I justa people. You know you come together, looking for a solution or like yeah fora way to like figure. This out fix it, instead of just like I'm Goin, to saythis negative thing, you're going to stack on top of it and then we're goingto get to the point where, when I go home, I'm going to be even more bedactand like everything's, going to be so much more exaggerated about the thingsthat I am mad about. Are that I hate that makes me angry. Yeah Yeah. That is very different and Ithink, like you know, another thing you talk about is teasing like teasing,your your significant other. Do you guys tease a lot? Is that like I'm downanymore, we use tail? Oh you did what happened so I am in here in the Le Sarcasm is asecond language, Oh Gosh, for me Resaca in the bedroom,...

...probably, but I don't think that's what theycan't. I o what I boil down to, but it got got to a point where he alwaysthought it was nat at him, because I just being sarcastic when it reallywasn't bad, and so I remember him being like. I read us so like you to liketamper down the sarcasm or us to have a a an signal, look bigger beingsarcastic because they can't tell like taltavull right exactly like. I need tofeel like give me something why wot did you have a Singal? No, I ended up. Okaylearning have an ape so sarcastic, a the time I mean are having defensemione being like really therapy the host about it, and so no I meaneverytin. Do we pick and like? He is, I always say he's closet funny, but he isthe funniest person I know, but he would never know that for beating himUS hourly, it's o yeah. I definitely like mess with one another and jokearound and stuff, but I don't think you like pig on another teas or like a very sarcastic with each other,not consistently bat. His I'm curious, like maybe one of thebiggest like teases or maybe pranks, that you guys are done because, likeactually and I because I can relate a little bit likein the beginning of our relationship, she pulled one of the most ultimatepranks on me O. My God, so my past has been just like sprinkled with horrible hairstats. Okay, so she went through my facebook and just found a ton of oldpictures of me with a horrible hair. So the first prank is we're literallysitting at breakfast eating and line for phone lights up, and I just kind oflike glanced over, and I saw it her background and was me with my like emo scene, hair cut, and Iwas like wait. What wait? What is this? I She just like crack it up? Okay, sothat's Defton good step to to me to the next level. So this is pre Ovid I've got my house,she's got her apartment, I'm driving over a I'm hanging out of her apartment,and while I am there, I open up the fridge and I've been like hanging outthere for like hours at this point. Okay and and I open up the fridge and Ilook over and I see a photo of me when I had a mallet and I was like what is this kind o like Big Bay. But what is this?Is She just crack it of laughing, and I just thought? Oh you like just hit aout of me with my mom. No, I am now later putting something in the line, themicrowave, my opening up and there's a picture of me with Balan Super, say andhair, and I'm like what is this and she's cracking up again and now. I'mthinking how many of these are there. So going back to the thirty minute POOPI go into her bathroom lift at the toilet, see what is in the toilet, apicture of me with this crazy hair style. From back when I was like adrummer, a I e to Rot band and then- and I thought I found themall months later- O my God, my roommate were leaving grocery store and he waslike Deb what time to Lisena and I'm like nothing, and he was like no look.I looked out and she had cut out this little perfect circle to go over the Orangefor the Florida licence of me wearing this rainbow colored. It sweater likeposing like this, and I was like it makes sense- cops- have been telling mefor two months straight, probably trying to figure out what's going on inmy life and plight. Wow, that's rat, like that's prettygood. I don't know. If that's teasing is as much as that's right. I frame. Doyou guys do any of that. I not really big prickers, okay wish or it's a greatstory. Do you do you have like an ultimate story like from your history?It's like this is one of the crazy stories, the story that you would like telleveryone about you in Germany, it's more like, so he doesn't it nothing like that. Hedoes a really funny impression of me and there was one time of where he wasa Keis in the shower. Did I don't even remember what it was about? They wasdoing this. Like I mean I was crying, I was laughing so I I pracious and Irecorded like the floor, but so you could hear him like recorded the wholething and put it on Instagram, and it was like at the time like one of mymost liked post and I can't remember...

...what he s turn out be just just talking about. I think he wastalking about so I in his felon his bull like Boncini Shop Tull. He callsme bull because I mean I am a boll and are a hundred percent, and I think hewas talking about like oh a really here, just kind of do what I want and thenyou know you can get upset and the here and I just kind of like Oh there'sa lot goin go through it, like seems like dis, like just like that. Bretlanddialogue like what goes on in my mind, and he does that fold like hisimpression with me is colored and he like he'll, do it it for my friends andmy friends are like that is what your brain sounds like.Isn't it? So it's like more. Like my love at my brain sounds like I, I came from a prinking family, okay,but I don't really do that, giving any good Franks from your family but okay,so my sister and I have my mom- is really like. Jumpy, like Imean, like you, put a cop down, let art Ho like like she just jumpy, Oh man. Sowe get her a lot. I think our best one was we. You go to Galera if he has a familyand you know that they don't really do it any more, but like the thing that hewould pull in the spray head that you wouldpull out like it wasn't a part of the Faucet. It was like a separate thingfor the sink yeah, so we would rubber band that. So when you would turn it,it would stray you amazing, and we would like just keptputting the rubber band on like she got no girls and she take it off and then,like an hour later, we would put it back on and she wouldn't think to checkit, because so we just like all day long sprayer or you might my parents praying to us likeI would get in bed and like that, be shaking cream on to my pillow or like the the the plastiglas over the toilet. Whenyou go to go, he and it's like you like just go with every way. That's a greatone! That's a great one! It's hard to do on girls, though, because you likesit down and you fill it right, not not if it's like under the toilet seed. Ohyou do it like on us, got a bowl. You put the seat down yeah. What is that do when you said geteverywhere so well I mean you're sitting on top of it. Never in I don'tknow, there's everywhere, because I've only seen it from. I have talk abouttoilets. That's going to be the blurry. Well, Ithink that like prayings and teasing a like all of that, like you, don't dothat to someone you just met like I didn't show up at Disney springs andlike tease you or prank you, or at least I hope I did it. I sent you toget a dealt with, which I thought was like a ER opposite. First, ever to eveso good, I did realize that I forget to tell you about a very important detail,which is the best, to wit, is the swirl with pineapple an Fanel, but I'm sorryso I halfway prenty now yeah, but that was on purpose. I can tale thought thatout exactly, but I like, I think that you have tobuild something that you call relational equity with a person before you a se, I'mtruble with them. Yeah. Can you talk a little bit about that relational,equity and and just like how you an germ, havedeveloped that or like what that is for people yeah, I think of a lot of thetime. I don't think a relation all e pity, necessarily in terms of pranking,usually more in terms of like having difficult conversations orspeaking into somebody's life, but you earn a acuities Er right if you earnedthat balance like we want to stick with the financial analogy, like you're you're, putting in right of your makinginvestments into this person, you're you're, showing them that you careabout them that you're for them that you're there for them, and I think ofthat as like you, if you navigate difficult seasonsor you show up for them with in or heard like that's deposits into likethis relational bank, so that when you go to make a withdrawl of Hey, I wull love you, but it kind of seems like you're strongwith this sin, and like I love you too much like you doing that and like orHey, I love you but like this thing that you said the other day like itreally hurt me and it stuck with me like something that's pulling out ofsomeone not putting into them. You've built up currency to be able to takethat withdrawal. You know and so think about it. I think about it. A lot oftimes in terms of the Internet, people like trying to whole Le Responsible oraccountable online. I not be not in the ever invested in me, so you're tryingto withdraw a from a zero balance. You...

...have I e, I don't trust you. I don'tknow you. You have never done anything to me, believe that you are for me orthat you love me you're, trying to tell me that I need to like do this acertain way or need to apologize for something or I need to you know nothave done this like and that's just that's all like anInternet conversationally need to believe that people on the Internet aresurrounded by people that will do that for them in real life and not try to dothat. For people we don't know on the Internet, but even in one just reallife relationships. You know like that's like somebody, yougo to church with walking up to you. You've never talkedto and saying I see this issue in your life and I youshould change it. How a you, Goin childer, are showing exactly thechildren in showing or itler too short or and to live in your hands andworship, or I haven't seen you in a couple Sundays like or or something on the street like wejust you have a built of relational equity to have any kind of difficultconversation with me and that's like some kind of weird like we think we'relike we're privilege like we think we can do whatever we want, how it ourconversations we want with people when we have ear the right. You know, and soI think the same. I think that very much goes from marriage if you're, if you're, only pulling out of yourspouse by like telling them what you need from them or what they're doingwrong or probably could have done this better. What are you putting o like? Are youputting anything in to replace that wow I mean in our hardest season. We were, we werejust being very critical of one another and telling each other we needed andwhat we weren't what they weren't doing. Now we were doing get wrong and never replacing it with like. Thankyou or like your great dad or the way you showed upfor this was so helpful. You know, and so that's been, that he was on, butthat- and I that's been far beyond just marriage yeah. I mean there's so many thoughtswhile you're talking about that. Never on the financial analogy is perfectbecause, literally when you go into the negative financially, it's read notsure that when you are at a zero of relational equity with someone- andthey say something it makes you see red yeah, so yeah. First of all, that'samazing thank yeah, your Belcoo that but the second thing like so I'mthinking. Okay, if I say something, and to someone family member, some of themin a relationship a friend in the beginning of our relationship, that myupset them that might like hers are feelings. But then, like five years later, I sayit after I've filed that relational equity. It doesn't hit his heartexactly and like. I hope that people you know. I think that was one of thebiggest takeaways for me when I heard that and a concept because I was likeman, I that's so true. That's so good is that you could build such arelational ancud with someone that you might slip up. I mean I am a loosecandid without this mouth but mine and I will say the dumbest thing yeah, you know the other day I had toapologize because we're talking about Halloween costumes and I had a huge Mustang of the time andthey were like you should tell a so. I was like Oh that'd, be great and I waslike, like ten LASSOS, not like with someone, so I'm thinking of a costumefor Ashley Yeah, how Man, who could she be as my partner? I, Oh you could bethe dog because that's the mascot of the team. I know that was her reactionto not very happy, but it's like. I think if I would have said that all youknow at the beginning and there wouldn't be a relationship or resent,and I'm sure- and I hope that in five years, if I say that she's just likeyour idiot yeah exactly yeah because yeah it was embarrassingbecause we're in front of our friends and I'm not thinking that, but in thatit so that's another important part of it as well as assuming the best aboutthe first that you're with right, which is hard really hard. It's been letingfor certain personality type so like in that moment like she could choose to belike he just calling a dog or she can just to think he's an idiothe's. A man doesn't think ere talks. Then let it go. You know so there's twosides to that: the Reales like what he yes, but also the like, he's a gonetalkinge times at all. You know yeah idiot for sure, but I guess thatjust cos I a man yeah, so then yeah, and I think that she like was almost soangry that I was like. Oh, my gosh we're going to go back home and like goto bed angry. I'm like you know so on the right home,I'm apologizing and like trying to...

...explain how there it is again. What areyou looking what is happening? I think it's everytime I say something that God is like you shouldn't be saying the so sho yeah but anyways. You know I was like okay,because I'm always trying you know. Once again, the Church hastaught us don't go to bed angry. So it's like I got to solve this beforeour head is the pillow, but I know that you are like no nona honey, I'm good!It's in a grammar you're like it's okay, to go a bitangry yeah! It's pretty controversial! Is it I would say with what, like anymarriage marital like church advice, you know that I've been given or likeconferences that I went to yeah. That's like one of the big things they preachyeah and it's like it's because there's a bio verse says like. Let not the sungo down on your anger and we take everything to the my mal. So literallylike this, on going down, don't be angry, I be angry and I think, like God,created us as more complex, multifaceted individuals than like tomeasure our emotions by the sun. HMM, but that's like my least favoritemarriage advice is don't get of at angry because and it's just dependenton different personality types. But I can tell you that for Jeremy- and Iwhen one or both of us are angry, we actually we don't try to like solveconflict when we're angry, because it gets ugly me fast. Like I say things Idon't mean he says he thinks he don't. He don't mean he says things he doesn't mean and it just it goes sideways so fastand in the early years of our marriage, a lot of our biggest fights werebecause we were like we're not going to go to bed angry like we're going tofigure this out right now. Don't walk await for me. No we're going to talkabout this and the other person's like. If I talk to you about this right now,I'm gonna rip you apart, like I'm, going to just I'm just going to Desinatyou right now, and so now, like eleven years later, like yeah,there are times we go to bed and we're like not overly thrilled with oneanother and like he's not my favorite person on the planet, but you know like what it's like that don'tgo to sleep or don't go to. Bed. Angry is like in direct opposition with sleep on it. Like wetell people to sleep on it all the time I won just Le Sleep on it and thinkabout it. Don't say anything you don't mean, don't make it a rash decision,but when you're married you should make all the rash decisions and just likeget it all out there before you go to bed and so half the tap like more thanhalf the time. You know we still kiss each other good night. We still sleepin the same bed, we're just not like really super happy with each other andwe wake up in the morning and yeah. Sometimes it's still like. Okay, likethis was really hurtful. I'm still really upset about this weed to talkabout this, but sometimes it's like. I really wasn't that big. I was kind of pulling that out ofproportion, my bad I'm sorry, I love you and we move on, and so I think like we, like you weresaying from the Church and I think like culture. Does that too, like don't getabout angry, like I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves and that whenthe reality is is sometimes the best thing you can do is just go to bedangry and sleep on it. You're like I'm about to start a fightand then immediately go to sleep. No, don't be dumb, like don't do that, butit's the one to Cambo right just getting to night. I want to talk aboutany more you're saying this is like if it's getting close to bed time, you're,not saying like. If we get an argument midday and it's like eight hours beforebedtime, we shouldn't just like not try to figure this thing out. Imean, I don't think you can get like two in the weeds about the specifics ofit. I think, like yeah, there have been times where well, okay, to be fair,very specific to our situation. We don't really talk a lot during the day,because the way my husband works like he is not really available. So all thetime, our only time to argue is in the afternoon I only time to get annoyedwith one another is in the afternoon I mean but yeah. I think there have.There have been times where we've going to bed annoyed with one another,multiple nights in a row, because we like couldn't get on the same pageabout something or we were struggling with, something where we werefrustrated with each other and it just like. I think it comes down to like me,trusting him and him trusting me when I'm ready to talk about it, I'll, letyou know and we'll talk about it and it doesn't have to be like we've gotforever and now I don't want to like stay angry with you for months or weeksat a time, but like sometimes there's like the issue is more complex than let's just sit down talk about itfigure. Now I come is like I need to talk to God. I need to figure out whatlike am I wrong? Am I looking at this the wrong way. Am I perceivingsomething? Am I putting words in your...

...mouth like? I just think that that that maritaladvice, I just think it like it- goes against human nature, where I and itgoes against, like biblical knowledge of like slow to speak. You know, likelet everyone be slow to speak and slow to anger. Well, if I need a minute to think aboutthis before we talk about it like, why can't I have that any tay ent yourtasout yeah, you're good they're hurting my ears under this head tons yeah. Ialways have to take my gauges out. You know when I do you a to know. I alwayswanted to have gauges. I am like the time I had one earring when I was a kidand I lost it holiday world in the water parks. I'm sure some kids have aride on it and just right in his foot, but I was that kid that, like didn'twant to tell my parents, because I remember last year- yeah I didn't wantto like tell them. So I like remember, like you know, just like kind of tryingto hide my ear lobe for like years I was like years later. My mom was likewait, a second didn't. You have an airing in there anyways a yeah. I thinkthat what you talking about that, having that relational equity, allowseach other to trust that hey we're not going to be upset forever, we're notgoing to always be mad at each other, but it is crazy to think that, like allof this is going on with parents and then like the kids, typically, don'tknow like anything that's going on like I grew up thinking like so many like perfect thoughts about youknow, my parents is like they can't do any wrong. They're, always just like so perfect. There's nomistakes, and I think that you know you talk about like being able to apologizeto your kids and that being healthy because it kind of first of all ittakes off a huge burden. Guess for the parents to think that they have to puton this perfect act and acts like there's no imperfections going on yeah,but it's also important because I struggle with apologizing like a lot ofpeople do, and I wasn't modeled for you and I and that's what I wonder, yeah Ithink it's I think it's so important, I think, is one of the most importantparts of being a parent is being able to apologize to your kids and alsoapologizing to other people in front of your kids. I apologize my kids relatively often,if they're making me nuts and it's completely warranted that I pop off andI'm like. Oh my God, do like I'll stop yelling stop fighting! I M Y God. Ican't take it. I will usually like home down. Like I'm sorry, I freaked out you guys have to quit. You know like Icould have handled that better, but I wasn't wrong like the larals being theworst. You know so because, like I think it removes a barrier that exists between parents andkids of that. Like human element, you know like, I think we want our kids to think we're great.We want our kids to to look up to us. We want our. You know, like that's thehope, but at the same time I want my kids to know that I'm human, because Ithink there's another element to it where, if your kids do think you'reperfect, if they do think you can do no wrong, then they think that that's theexpectation for themselves, HMM and that's how you create a generation ofperfectionists, hmm who give themselves no grace because their parents nevermessed up. So I should never mess up ouch yeah yeah, so I mean that sounds like that.Could have been me. Maybe a little bit- and I mean my mother is great. She wasgreat. She's always been great, but I do feel like that. Just not seeing thatapologetic culture or environment maybe has created this perfectionist inme. Did you ever get to see your mom like get emotional are like struggle? I did see herstruggle yeah. I did see a lot of struggle just in bad relationships got to yeah, becauseI think that that's another part. I think we, I think, a lot of parents,don't let their kids see them struggle, don't let them see them cry, then welet them see them have a hard day, and that sets another a whole notherexpectation that I should never have bad days and everything should be easy,and even if it's hard, I should be like be able to put on tough face and befine now something just clicked in my head,because I feel, like you, have brought up a couple different times about germy working a lot and going andputting a lot of his time into that. Does that ever play a part in the wholeparenting like two little girls with him notbeing around so much because I feel, like that's very relatable, for a lotof people were one person in the relationship is like out doing fortyhours or more a week and just never around yeah, and I hate like usinglanguage like he's not around or...

...you know, he's not there a lot becauseit's hot he wants to be. He wants nothing more than to like, be thereit's, but he's not going out on playing top golf right, but I mean the realityis in like not like in a callous way like there are marriages where thehusband's gone all the time by choice m like hunting, widows or fishing widows, or I mean I live insports in paradise. So maybe that's Louisiana specific. I don't think it is,but I mean I have friends that their husbands are gone every weekend,hunting and work. You know so I am thankful that, like my husband, doesn'treally have a lot of hobbies because he doesn't really have a lot of time he's good at everything, but he doesn'thave a lot of time to do anything because if he isn't working he'sinvesting in his family and it's like he takes a couple of like long week,long hunting drips a year, and I love that like. I want him to have the timeto do that, but I mean yeah. It is really hard you knowand like it's. I think people play the hardship Olympics with this kind ofstuff where it's like yeah, like my husband's gone from four thirty to sixevery day and works every other weekend and they're like well. My husband worksin the oil field. He's gone fourteen one n fourteen off and I'm like. Okay, do you want to cookie like it's allhard like we're? Gonna want to compare hard, but it is hard it's and I workI've essentially a full time job. I work from home, but it's a lot and I doa lot of the parenting does fall in my lap and on my shoulders and so yeah. I mean it's a lot and it's hardand it's been a point of contention for us in the past, how much he works andwe'll get into it, and you know I think I've had to grow,immaturity and understanding that he's he works as hard as he does sothat he can provide for his girls. You know like he works as hard as hedoes guess because he's an achiever yes, because he wants to be good at what hedoes. Yes, because he wants to be honorable, but also because he wants to provide the bestthat he can for us, and he does you know. So it's a shift in mindset. Ithink it's necessary. That has honestly just happened for me in like the lastyear of you know, I would live in a box with him if that's what we had to do, but he works really hard for us to want sure that we don'tactually don't. You know. I mean his job from what you told me doesn't soundlike one. That's ever going to like go remote, it's not going to it. Wasn'tremote during the pandemic, yeah, it's not going to decrease in hours oranything. So like what's the plan as far as because I think that a lot offamilies out there, they just say well we're just going to have to go throughthis struggle and till you get to retirement, but that by that time it'slike I don't know. Maybe this is just for my personal experience, but I seefamilies that at that point it's like. Okay, I've fallen out of love with you,because I've put all my time into work and so we're not in loving, more andthe kids are out of the house, and so our roommates now were roommates or ifthey choose to stay together or they just like, go their separate wakebecause they're just like all right! Well, yeah, we got through that and now,when we're sitting here alone, it's like! Oh, I don't even like you yeahright. Well, I mean we've talked a lot all right like I really like him a lotand we work really hard we're really hardon our marriage and on our family, and you know, we've done the roommatesthing. We know we did that early. We did the like not really liking eachother and kind of being in Bevil in about one another, and I never want togo back to that, and so we work really hard not to, and I mean on, if I meanhonest like there it we do have some like pipe dreams of being me being ableto retire him and him not even having to be at this job anymore. Okay, sright, I mean how awesome would that be like for him to be able to work for meand that ud be amazing, and I don't knowthat that's the plan. I don't know that that will pan out. It would be a coupleof years before I did anyway, but yeah I mean. I think that that's whyyou have to be putting like the time and the effort into your marriage. Now, like yeah, our kids are younger in thetrenches. He works a ton, my jobs are relatively s stressful and takes a lotof my time. But, like you prioritize, but you prioritizeyeah, you know and he's what I prioritize and I'm what he prioritizesso yeah and don't think that I can say a whole lot on this, because I don'thave any kids of my own, and so I have no idea how stressful and how much work and energyand time and all of that stuff I mean I taught for three years elementaryy, andso I know a little bit about what...

...that's like, but they definitely aredifferent when they're in a classroom then versus when they're at home. AndI'm curious because, like we talked about at dinner, theother night with the kids that come to Disney and they've got an IPAD in frontof them and Miki mouses right next to them, and they just like, don't evenseem and we talked about when we were kids and we could go out and just rideour bikes until the sun went down yeah and we could, you know, just go out anddo so many things and you were saying like Oh yeah, I have a lot more likerestrictions or like kind of guidelines with my kids, and you talked about likethat sacrificial parenting, and you talk like about that versus just kindof like the the selfish like you go. You know be on your eye pad, whileMommy and daddy yeah go over here and do the stuff and like I don't want tobe judgmental like I get it, I got a get like just sticking your head infront of Naples and I get bringing an I've had to dinner, and I really dolike. I understand that, because it's exhausting life is exhausting,parenting is exhausting. Marriage is exhausting, but at the same time I don't know,we've just chosen to parent differently than that, and I don't want to be likeit's right, you're wrong, but but it he seems like you know, mightget that very like, but I'm also not like an we. Don't my kids don't doscreen time. My kids have never watched a movie like there's those parents werere like again, do you want to cook like okay? You know but, like my kids havevery limited access to entertainment, like we were talking again dinner, mykids watch Aladdin and beauty and the beast and ambers new group of like yes,yeah, it's ITA good, like so underrated it such an underrated movie. My kidswatch like the classics. We have a lot of control over what they want. Theywash a lot of peppa pig. They don't just have like free accessto Netflix or like they do both have like the Kendal fire, like the Amazon,Kennel fire for kids or whatever, but the reason we got. Those is becausethey are like locked down like they can only access what we put on it. You knowso those are great for travel or Ferlie in the car, but because the the unfortunate realityis that you, in my opinion, in this day and time like I can't be like go ride,your scooters go ride. Your bigs come home when the hill street lamps come on,because that's how your kid gets kid. You know what I mean. We can't do thatand I don't know if I'm like was kidnapping less prevalent in the s likeI don't know, or did we just not know about it, because it's social media orwhat like? I can't. I wish I could, but I can't, but what I can do is like turnoff the TV and make them go play outside. What I can do is be like invested intheir lives enough to sacrifice my own ability torelax or just kick back and chill and like lean in with my kids, you know,and so it's such a balancing act and we don't do it perfectly and I don't everwant to pretend like I do it perfectly, and there are days where I don't feelgood and my kids watch. Seven movies day: That's okay, you know what I meanlike, but I just I think it's I don't think our generation of parents hasdone a great job of preserving kids childhood HMI. I don't think kids havemuch of a childhood any more. Is there anything in particular? Thatmakes you think of that? Well, I mean think about how you remember yourchildhood. It was like being outside and like rub some dirt in it and ridingbikes, and I don't know like trading pokemon cards and yeah. You know likeplaying war, these things, what what is it?What is happening here stack and you would pass pugs like I like. Do it likeyou know, and it was having neighborhood friends and it was popsicles and the ice cream truck likeit was like out. It was so much more like outside and, like I'm like worriedthat this next generation is going to have like no social capacities, becausethey've been like on her, I pots and in front of a TV or like Netflix, is not aparrot like it's just not, and I think- and I don't mean this in a judgmentalway. I just worry that our generation is like letting Netflix or to go back to our previous conversation,the government or big tech, parent, their kids and then like when they're old enoughto come to you for advice. Are they goingto come to you? Are they going to go to instagram? HMM If you've been invested, if youhaven't leaned in, if you haven't spent the time, if you've taught them to goto like techology for everything and...

...that's going to be where they go, whenthey want to learn about Xyz or what people believe or what they do in thissituation versus coming to you, I want my kids to come to me. I sit like havetwo daughters. I want them to come to me. I want them to talk to me and it's not easy and it would be wayeasier to just like let devices parent, my kids, but I think that that robs them of achildhood. I think that, like we talked about this a little bit at dinner, likemy, I have a seven year old, she's, going to be seven next month and she's innocent still like she's stilllike, believes in the magic and is so sweet and what innocent and she's amazing and that's not to saythat other kids aren't amazing, but I put her next to the a seven year old who has beenexposed to more of the world and they're so much more dated andtheir love of time like their meaner and they don't believe in stuff anymoreand the way they talk. I'm, like my God, are you seven or fourteen? You know Idon't know, I don't want to be like one's right and one's wrong, but I dothink that, like we've done what's right for us and our family in the waythat we've chosen to parent so yeah actually- and I you know- We talk abouthey the day- that we become parents like and we'll say what about this orlike? What about that. So we'll try to have conversations, but it's like you,don't really know until you're there and it's like Oh wow, it's real, butone of the conversations that we have a little debate that we have because Icome from the world of being a public school teacher and she comes from theworld of going to a private Catholic school. You know for some of her life,and so she get to see like the value in that. I know that, for you you had kind of put your daughter into publicschool, but then you took her out Yep so, and I know that your kids are veryyoung, so you're just like in the beginning of Reis out what was thedecision to go? You know what we're done with public schools yeah and we'reonly doing private schools. Well. What's funny is like in that debate,like the private versus Public Scholay, I used to be on your like your side ofit, like my husband's best friend the FIRT, like he's one of my really goodfriends now, and we always joke when we're together. If we don't debate,it's weird, like Ben and I debate about everything. The first debate we everhad was public versus private school, and I was on the public side of thatthat debate so who I am, as a parent has changed really radically over thelast I would say a year and a half two years, two years it was like literally sixmonths before Ovid hit. I did this kind of like one undred andeighty partially, to be honest because Ifinally got my medication figured out and being a mom with anxiety with likecrippling anxiety, can be really difficult because it was just like everything was scary and I couldn'tthink straight and everything was foggy and it's part of why I don't eat glutenanymore, because it's like really hopeful with brain stuff and so yeah. I put my four year old on a busto kindergarten that work. That's really young yeah she's, like sevendays before the cut off her birthday, is okay. So she was a baby and I puther on a bus and center to genre. It's not judging, there's nothing wrong withthat, but now literally over my dead body like Iwould never now. So it's not just like public privateschool, like my entire parenting philosophy, has changed and we werelike we were talking about earlier. I used to like judge MOMS that didn'tvaccinate their kids, you know but yeah, so she did a year of kindergartenand our plan was always to hold her back because she's, so so young andbecause of the seizure that we mentioned earlier it. I did have somelike residual impacts and there were some medications that she were on. Shewas on it caused some slight just like developmental delays like she's, notdelayed it. Just she just like a teeny tiny bit behind, which is fine, so thenshe's young and behind so we always knew. We thought it because, like statewise, we thought we had to put her into kindergarten again, wasn't informedconsent. I didn't know to do the research. I know that you can oft out,so we send her to kindergarten. Always that plan is always a hold her back andhave a do, kindergarten again, and then the public school system won't hold herback. They did not that because of theirretention numbers, they wanted it to look a certain way. They fought UStooth and nail on it on holding her back. You wanted it and they said noyeah, wow yeah bad, like they got caught in lies likeit, went all the way to the school board. It was like a whole thingbecause I was like I'm not sending my...

...kid to first grading like throwing herin the dee bed and hope she swims, like I'm, not doing that, and so that waskind of like the final drop in the bucket of me. Trusting my kids with thegovernment. I was like literally screw ally. All pulled her out did like so they marchbeginning of March, is when Louisiana school schools closed because of covedM, and at that point I was still kind of okaywith her being in public school and was like okay. Well now that she'sgoing to Miss March April, may she's gonna Miss Three full months of beingan actual school. Now they're definitely going to hold her back andthey still wouldn't hold her back. They were still telling us now, so I holder,I jus, like P, literally pulled her, then we, which was great because wedidn't have to do virtual schooling, any more, which was a miserable polder, got the last kindergarten spotat the school she's in now, which is like a home school coop and a privateChristian school had a baby, it's like so perfect and like such a godsend e but yeah. That was like the last timethat the government got to tell me what to do with my kids man. So this was notovid and like being in quarantine and sitting around and like rethinking likethis was like right before. was there something that sparked this whole, likerethinking everything you had been taught or rethinking everything youknew to be true, I think so. She had her seizure in thousand and fifteen, and I was a wreck. I mean literallyalmost like almost watch. My kid died, so I was just kind of a disaster forlike a full year, so that takes us two thousand andsixteen thousand and sixteen is when I start kind of putting thedots together. She got four vaccinations two daysbefore she had her seizure out. Those things be related, startdoing that research that researches like another year so hour and like toand a d seventeen, and then that was when I was like. Ohit was like. I like talked to a doctor who is friendly to people who don't want tovaccinate their kids, which is rare and they were like yeah. I would make thatconnection, and that was kind of so then from like seventeen eighteennineteen was this slow morph. It wasn't like an it was not overnight. It wasthis kind of slow morph in my parenting and in my philosophy and how I handledthings and approach things and then the them not wanting to hold her bysitting in a meeting with the principle of her school and the principal beinglike. I don't really know that she's a candidate and I have the papers that,like her teachers, recommending that she's held back was just kind of thiseye opening, and I don't want to like. I love teachers and teachers arewonderful. It wasn't a teacher issue. It was an administration issue. It waslike the system issue was like you're. Not For my kid. You don't want to getto succeed. You want your numbers to look good. That was a little bit of alight bulb where I was like. HMM, no, I'm not doing this with you anymore, so man well, and on top of all of this,like you're, not just running an Instagram, you told me theother night. You have six streams of income and I'm like the. I was liketrying to think of like okay, what it all is she doing like what are the sixstrings like? What? What are you doing? Yeah and maybe you're, not comfortablewith sharing a yes, I literally teach people how to yeah so like want to havean online course. So I teach people how to like make money on the Internet.Okay, in a way that, like honors God withtheir gifts, I have a membership group. That's like we do like a deep diveevery month into different topics and different, like real life, things froma biblical standpoint, so course membership group and what's thecommunity, called the collective collective yeah crincrin collective. Ilove Alliteration literation, yes, podcast ads affiliate marketing, I'mlike in to fill it with a couple of companies. Talk about their stuffpeople buy it through my length. I get paid. Okay, I've marched yes and we have digitalproducts. Wow a are these nails. Is that, like some of the stuff thatthey pay you to like, show off? Okay, you love these nails. Like yeah, I sawyou you had like so many boxes and like all different types- and I was likeacshally- can't see this come, I almost oh wait. Er Hold on one second,Oh, I didn't bring out ashes okay, but Iforgot that I brought you my favorite candy and you knew I was going toforget what what what are Theseo, what are those...

...nerves, gummy clusters, sponsored bynerds gummy clusters, should be sponsored by Nerd Arconte. Are you hadthese? Yet they look like nerds rope but cut down, but the better like yeah yeah in like a bidable yeah. It's likemy instagram legacy like everybody's, like. Why did you introduce me to these?Oh, my gosh they're, so good. Well, these were absolutely amazing andyou've been amazing and for anyone at home go get some nerves clusters oryour favorite candy, and you know what go get your spouse's, favorite candyand go surprise them, because that would be a yeah. The Nice thing to do. We have time, I think, for maybe onemore question. I am curious. I listen to a podcast episode of the CrappyChristian and you talked about your phone mission with Herida ranch yeahcan? Can you tell us a little bit about that, because I think that kind ofaligns with what our mission is yeah in a way it does a little bit yeah. SoHerod Ranch is a local boys home to me, so it's in Zachary Louisiana and they bring in boys, but I love it becausethey come from a holistic standpoint. So it's not like just bring me yourkids that are struggling and, like you, get to tap out and we'll take care ofthem like it's like a very like the whole family. The whole family goes tocounseling. They want to work with the family to kind of walk through a seasonof difficulty, so the kids, the boys, come and live there. They go to schoolthere, they have counseling, but it's just. Ithink seventy five Acre ranch, so they have this. They can write horses andyou know, have this whole experience and it's Christ centered, but they their point and their hope in theirheart is to like get the whole family to a place wherethey can like walk forward Hm. You know healthily, so they like, they won'taccept a boy or a kid. If the family is not willing to do the work and so we've partnered with them, we doa quarterly mission project with the grapion company and Super Cool. Ourfall project is basically just like getting them the stuff that they want, not that they need, so they have abudget for stuff that they need. I was like what do you want? What would makeyour life easier? What would be fun to have like Board Games for the house, or you know desks for the different likebooks or whatever like it was like, and so it was funny because it was likepulling teeth, getting them to make this list, because they're so used toworking on a budget, and I was like no like what would you want what would becool to have like colored paper to print stuff on? Youknow like stuff like that, so yeah we're working with them. This fall, Ithink well, a they'll actually probably likely be our Christmas mission productas well us because I love working with them, but but yeah you can go to crabeater, ItageDash ranch and all of their. I just had to make Amazon wish lists, and so youcan go into the Amazon wishes purchase what you want and it ships straight tothem and just kind of like that's super lassin em, yeah, yeah, our hope and our goal, and I mean people that have beenwatching this on Youtube and you've. Seen this thing popping up over herenext to me, this says: Text Freedom like if anybody texts that number to our text- freedom to that number.Sorry they actually get to try to help in our mission of getting a Gospelcentered home for every kid in the foster care system. Yeah- and I meanit's as easy as just like starting to do a prayer challenge a seven day,prayer challenge, just to kind of like get their mind behind the differentparts of that yeah. But I love that, like behind everything that you'redoing like talking about vaccine mandates, talking about everythinggoing on in Afghanistan and all this controversial stuff, it is all kind of to build up this community tohelp support these things. I mean, because you saidyou have four different ones a year. Is that yeah so like having thesedifferent missions that you can help support and fun? But you you can't doit on your own. You have to have this community behind you to do it. So ifanybody that is listening to this heard, this is out there wondering how can Iget behind this girl? Blake, what are the handles that they need to followher, the podcast? They need to check out yeah. So I'm on Instagram at thegirl named Blake, because people always think I'm a boy and gravy Christian Co is the grapeChristian, instagram and instagram. Really the only place that I hang out. I have no capacity for anymore social media channels and the ones that I been that one and we have mypodcast as confessions of a grapy Christian. You can listen to thatwherever you're listening to this we're not on Youtube, but you can listen toit. APLE podcast spotify Google play all that kind of stuff awesome. Thankyou! So much, it's been a blast and day...

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